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Tim Duffy's avatar

A lot of this piece is about how many doomers make poor arguments and overstate the consensus and risks. I very much agree, and I think a lot of the soldier mindset and focus on unworkable solutions I seen in AI risk discourse reminds me of some folks with another existential anxiety, climate change.

That being said I do think that AI is the most consequential issue of our time and does pose serious existential risks, just on longer timelines than most doomers.

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Sylvain Ribes's avatar

I'm not where you were, for one I don't get anxiety over things I can't control so that's helpful. But I am concerned and looking for reasons to be more optimistic.

However I have utterly failed to be convinced by any of LeCun's argument, who's generally eluding points and consistently being proven wrong on specific claims.

Besides "they're full of shit on biorisk!" which is an extremely narrow claim, although it should inform our priors somewhat, what have you found in either LeCun or Recht discourse that you found so compelling?

Because from what you write I understand "well the risk is not imminent so we're good", but capabilities are ratcheting up.

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